Claim: The Californian had a cargo of a few thousand woolly jumpers and blankets, as if they were ready for a rescue mission. Survivors on B Deck saw lifeboats lowered from above, 31. His father, a hotel proprietor and licensed victualler, was also born in Portsmouth whilst his mother was a native of Alfriston, Sussex. of her departure many outlets resorted to using photographs and footage of Olympic, leading to much confusion over the subsequent years. His theatre reviews were later collected as You Were Marvellous (1983). The Chief Mate put Paddy in charge of ", Olympic (left) and Titanic during construction at Harland & Wolff, Belfast. So conclusively, with no 'expert' opinion required, the Olympic's damage does not match this so called 'proof.' that when the crew joined Titanic there was [sic] rumours that the company An example of the many adverts that show the Olympic instead of Titanic - logical considering one was the older sister. Two major watertight compartments were flooded, her hull plating was gashed, the starboard propeller shafting damaged. Secondly, and rather importantly, the names were not engraved on the lifeboats. in a high position in the company, the other man was in a very high position On the panels the number 400 is stencilled, but on the frames the number 401 is clearly visible. This claim is of course connected to the previous claim that the ship hit, instead of an iceberg, an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. 5. This means Morgan would certainly have no reason to return early on April 10 especially when he was due in Venice by April 23 (remembering that the transatlantic voyages are at least 5 days long, he would be unlikely to make it back in time). https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Fenton, The Poetry Archive - Biography of James Fenton, Poetry Foundation - Biography of James Fenton. First and foremost is that the Californian would be a ridiculous choice as a rescue vessel. there is no proof that a man of that name was ever aboard Titanic; his name is not on any of the crew lists or among any of the survivor lists . )", By December 1911, Titanic was fitted with an additional 2 portholes, giving her a total of 16. If not, it is a moot point. Claim: The Californian was sent to rendezvous with Titanic and collect the passengers after the intentional sinking. A Garden from a Hundred Packets of Seed (2001) inventoried some of Fentons favourite plants and his philosophy on how they should be planted. Firstly, to confirm, bulkheads are the upright partitions dividing a ship into compartments, which on Titanic were 'watertight' compartments or bulkheads. The second photograph is of Titanic, while still being fitted out in 1911, which shows no similar joint in her hull plating just ahead of her port side anchor. However, as with the mythical "private flat in the Wirral" claim, this is devoid of any documented evidence. The Government man read the crew the Official Secrets Not to mention that the name Titanic was first filmed on the wreck in 1987 and it certainly does not look Numerous ships were stationed nearby despite a coal strike, 27. of the surviving crew. Veined marble is a naturally occurring metamorphic crystalline limestone and, like snowflakes and finger prints, no two pieces are the same. Actually it is quite simply medium grey primer that was used on all three Olympic class ships, including Titanic, It clearly occurred in a different part of the ship than where the Titanic split. 47. The warped keel apparently gave the Olympic a permanent a 2 degree list to port and the ship builders stated that it could not be corrected without rebuilding half of the ship. Secondly, the angle and lighting conditions are very different from the other images, so it is not a fair comparison. off the bell. To confirm this Parks Stephenson visited B-52 with James Cameron on a later mission in 2001 and described the room as still retaining "several of its fittings. Some drowned, some were probably killed below decks and there is speculation that an officer may have committed suicide. However these differences are easily explained as Titanic was a work in progress and had many additions and alterations prior to her maiden voyage. Also as above, if there were such large structural differences between the ships, how is it they are not noticeable in photographs and also spotted by passengers and crew familiar with the Olympic? His quote that "the question remains openI do not have enough concrete information" is from a 2004 episode named "Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank?" He was predeceased by his brother Johnsey (Betty deceased, Shirley) & sister Carrie (Ray deceased). As it was named the "Olympic Class" it would hence not be unusual to feature the first ship in any advertising. Californian was not expecting rockets, but a rendezvous This photograph of Titanic leaving Belfast on her way to begin sea trials allegedly reveals discoloured plating in the same location where Olympic had damage after its collision with HMS Hawke. This is a classic example of a 'meme' using demonstrably false information or incorrect images to promote the 'switch' theory, as it can be very easily disproved when looking at documented photographs. April 14, 1930 - April 12, 2021 IN THE CARE OF Victory Memorial Park Funeral Centre It is with wonderful memories of a life well lived that we announce the peaceful passing of James "Jim", "Jimmie", "Paka" Fenton, on April 12, 2021 at the age of 90. He always maintained that the iceberg alone did not sink Titanic, that it had a fire burning in the coal bunkers for a week and that the Captain and the company knew about it. He was the son of William Francis Butler (b. Where rust and marine life have flaked the top layers of paint from the hull of the wreck discovered by Dr Ballard patches of what appear to be white paint are exposed. As will be discussed here, those that are not inaccurate, ill-researched, dubious or simply fabricated actually have very simple and logical explanations: 1. There are a couple of important points to first realise. Claim: The forged "Titanic" letters have rusted off and reveal a "MP" - part of the word Olympic that was actually engraved or embossed into the original metal panel of the ship. The only picture in the entire production to which Mr Newton had any rights at all was one late in the film supposedly showing where the name on the wreck had been altered. In summary Gardiner's allegations that Titanic was in fact a damaged Olympic struggling to maintain speed does not add up, especially when you consider that he alleges Why would it be there? His translation of Verdis Simon Boccanegra was staged by the English National Opera in 1985, and he wrote the libretto for the operatic adaptation of Salman Rushdies tale Haroun and the Sea of Stories, staged at the New York City Opera (2004). They were metal plates which were screwed on. the game. Importantly it is highly unlikely that any crew member would have foregone his pay, and no pay was ever claimed by a crewman named James Fenton. 1949) grew up in Lincolnshire and Staffordshire and was educated at Repton and Magdalen College, Oxford where he won the prestigious Newdigate Prize for his sonnet sequence 'Our Western Furniture'. Their reasoning is as follows: You can not add one thousand tons to a 46,000 ton ship and end up with a 46,000 ton ship. There are other photographs of Titanic with similar liberties such as the shot of her in Cherbourg at night which has been heavily doctored to look as if it was taken at night with her lights blazing. Importantly, - Fourth Officer Boxhall "a little ice in the well deck covering a space of about three or four feet from the bulwarks right along the well deck, small stuff. (British Enquiry,Day 13) instead of a promenade as on Olympic's B deck, two private verandahs and suites were added to Titanic, hence necessitating a change in the B deck window configurations. But you do not need any imagination when you view a rather conclusive image that reveals that the 'patchwork' on the wreck does not match the location of the actual damage on the Olympic: Photograph of RMS Olympic showing the location of the damage. 4. Marble in the Sitting Room in the Government. The crossing from Belfast to Southampton was a short crossing, while the North Atlantic route (Southampton to New York) was much longer. He was awarded the Queens Gold Medal for Poetry in 2007 and won the PEN Pinter Prize in 2015. Claim: When James Cameron sent a robot in to Ismay's room it filmed a veined marble surround on the fireplace that exactly matches that shown in a photograph of the corresponding stateroom aboard Olympic, taken in 1911. Secondly, there was a rush to get the ship to Southampton to begin provisioning for the maiden voyage. Olympic had a 2 degree list to port, as did Titanic 5. other images of Olympic and Titanic, this post-disaster image has the anchors stowed, thus obscuring this area of interest. . The Britannic, when launched, had 16 portholes, consistent with the later port side configuration of the Titanic and the Olympic. exploded and caused the fatal damage. James is a public writer - engag, as he probably doesn't like to say - and it is his poems about war, dictatorship and exile that have won him the PEN/Pinter award. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the windows on B-deck -which should not be surprising as two private verandahs and suites were added to this section of the ship after its launch. This is demonstrably false information. The ship photographed departing Southampton has 16 bow portholes. The above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in portholes. The number 401 on Olympic woodwork This is one of the most popular pieces of 'evidence' of a switch but also the easiest to disprove. One must also suggest - if those behind the 'switch' were so clever so as to be able to switch absolutely everything aboard Olympic/Titanic as to include the numbers 400/401 etched onto the back of wooden panels in all the state rooms (refer to point here) then how is it they would The longer they were at sea, the more money it cost. Even more conclusively, a New York Times newspaper article of Thursday 28th March 1912 reveals that in March "J. Pierpont Morgan has written a cordial letter to They were: Californian (19 miles) a Leyland Line, Westbound London to Boston Most died of exposure in the freezing water of the North Atlantic because there were not enough lifeboats. This is another one of those inaccurate claims that more importantly does not make any sense even if it was accurate. Titanic advertising used photographs and artwork of the. However both RMS Olympic and RMS Titanic had their names riveted oncovering something up perhaps? The evidence for this is that it is only mentioned Has Cameron in fact admitted that Titanic is actually Olympic? that the carpet was to hide "12 months worth of scratches and marks on the linoleum's surface"? 1,496 people are believed to have died when the Titanic went down. 24. The bulkheads were not actually sealed at the top, this oversight allowed water to flow over, filling each compartment, one at a time. Goodwin Antiques 295 $361.88 345.06 Silver Enamelled Bracelet Recess Antiques 50.00 $61.34 58.49 Silver Blade Fruit Knife . He also confirmed that the ship was doing seventy-five revolutions, not 80 as was possible. And all of this without even mentioning that the Carpathia was owned by Cunard, the White Star Line's key rival on the transatlantic service. of her 24 double-ended boilers connected up." In fact his comment was made at least 30 years after the disaster (he was 20 while aboard Titanic), so could well have been an exaggeration. So by April 1912 both ships had 16 portholes. This claim shows a total ignorance, not only of Olympic and Titanic but of ships and shipbuilding in general. Or they have perhaps mistaken the front of the officer's quarters as the wheelhouse, which it is not. If they were interchangeable why would there be a number on it? After a million men had walked out for 37 days the government intervened and ended the strike by passing a minimum wage law. 10. and loss account for the year to December 31 st 1911 was in surplus by 1,102,756 Was this done deliberately to help with the switch? So there is nothing surprising with the fact that an iceberg caused enough damage to the starboard side (not bottom) of the hull so as to breach watertight compartments that eventually led to its sinking. Does it reveal evidence of suspicious or unusual damage? Fenton was made a fellow of the Royal Society of Literature in 1983. The number 401, Titanic's shipyard number, is also on the Titanic's starboard propeller. His experiences there provided fodder for the poems in Manila Envelope (1989). the number of revolutions some time on Monday or Tuesday to 78, which he claimed would drive the ship at However this claim goes with the assumption that the White Star Line was suffering financially. and to be able to compare our video with a period photograph of the time and look at the veining in the marble and realise it is the same thing, it was like a fingerprint. I saw a child who will never sleep. Further volumes of poetry included Out of Danger (1994), which won the Whitbread Book Award (now the Costa Book Award); Selected Poems (2006), a Penguin anthology of his work; and Yellow Tulips: Poems 19682011 (2012), an even broader survey containing previously uncollected verse. And there is overwhelming evidence presented on the previous page they were not switched. But what do the 'experts' think? However, as discussed in point 36 (below), almost certainly James Fenton was not aboard Titanic as he claimed. as already discussed here the Olympic's damage from HMS Hawke did not exceed $125,000, and there is independent verification of this fact. 44. 3. Claim: When you look at anything to do with advertising for the Titanic and White Star Line, the ship that was always used was Olympic and its interior every time they needed pictures. Even if that simple fact is not enough, the other alleged details regarding the Californian are being misrepresented. Act explaining that if they told of the real reason for the sinking, or the Early on, she was broadly running level with Olympics the cast iron fireplace with its veined marble surround to still be in place. Quite clearly the B-deck forward starboard windows are narrow - matching the wreck exactly. Damage to the Olympic due to its collision with HMS Hawke. Claim: Eyewitnesses themselves describe running along Titanics decks, but where they said there were promenades, there should have been cabins. Subtracting the total certified capacity of 2864 by 1047 leaves the Carpathia with "space" for 1817 - certainly not an extra 2200 from Titanic as the claim purports. Considering the discovery of Olympic's name on the lifeboat(s) allegedly occurred at least twice, on different continents, and no doubt seen by at least several people, why there are no written accounts, sketches or photographs of at the very least the boat, let alone the discovery, should ring alarm bells in the mind of any serious researcher. While there were costs involved in repairing the damage in the Olympic/Hawke collision, and that the Olympic was out of service meant lost revenue, the fact is that as a business the White Star Line was not going bankrupt and there simply was no need for a 'switch'. The wind blows through his silver hair. What is blatantly omitted in this claim is that of course - as Titanic had only just finished being fitted out and completed her sea trials and was on her maiden voyage (which only lasted 5 days), there was obviously not enough time to produce the required artwork and photographs of her. Thirdly, the characteristics of the Olympic were already known so there was less of a learning curve to deal with. Both had the same configuration of portholes in March 1912. in a high position in the company, the other man was in a very high position He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature and was Oxford Professor of Poetry for the . the newspaper Northern Star that was published on the 31 July 1996. According to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou "no such statement from any passenger is known." would have remained in surplus. Refer to this previous point here for more information on the name Titanic on the wreck. As for the White Star Line itself, it was the If a 'switch' was true, why would you need to create a 'meme' that is demonstrably false, by switching an 'actual' image of Titanic with the Olympic? But this should not misconstrued as anything unusual, but common practice for a company which suddenly comes under media scrutiny and wants to maintain ", The evolution of Titanic's port side portholes -from May 1911 when she was launched with 14, to April 1912 when she had 16. ", Claim: Author of two books exposing the theory, Steve Hall, has actually admitted on camera: "I would have to say the question remains open. Paddy said that the guilt of Titanic's bulkheads were intentionally deficient 1)The well known (to some of you) James A Fenton, alias "Paddy the Pig", who in the early 1970s, hinted how the loss of the Titanic was not entirely accidental. To prove this claim 22. It is not surprising that even Frank Finch doubted the third-hand story he relayed. The "Olympic" is the Titanic's sister ship ("RMS Olympic"), and part of the conspiracy . But they were cut short for several good reasons. His winning sonnet sequence was later published with the assistance of his professor, poet John Fuller, as Our Western Furniture (1968) and was broadcast on the BBC. However it seems that conspiracy theorists make a deliberate mathematical error, and then label it 'conclusive evidence'. The closest we have is when he is questioned about the binoculars and is asked: 19342. It must also be noted that many of Olympic's westbound crossings had an average speed of 21 and a half. This woodwork has the reverse sides clearly marked. Now, almost thirty years later, the director has one major regret regarding his depiction of a significant character in the movie. 19345. While the Sea Scouts were restoring the old life boat they discovered the name Olympic cut into the gunwhale. Author Steve Hall admits it could be the, 48. The Hawke impacted the Olympic in the stern area. Updates? answer was to grind the names off the bells. This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. (2012) which exposes the theory as being completely impossible. These include: Lookout Fredrick Fleet, Quartermaster George Rowe, Quartermaster Alfred Olliver, In fact both Olympic and Titanic were launched with 14 portholes on the port side forecastle on C-Deck and 15 portholes on the starboard side of the same area. There were no plates or anything that could be swapped over- the name was literally engraved into the ship, then filled in with paint. The answer to this is very simple: The name during her building and her sailing are in partly different positions because in the first construction image it was written over on the negative. Quite simply Titanic was underinsured, the main reason being that the White Star Line actually insured its own ships. Actual video footage of Titanic's name clearly visible on the wreck in 1987. This is completely false. principal constituent of IMM and enjoyed continued prosperity, its profit Another key component of the 'switch' theory is to state that damage to HMS Hawke was much more substantial. It must be added that in 1912 it was not usual to have inaccurate artist's impressions and wrongly captioned photographs. The fact that the Olympic went on to serve 24 years is simply because the damage was repaired. This New York Times newspaper article, printed prior to Titanic's departure, shows conclusively that Morgan would be in Venice on April 23 so he would be in no position to take the Titanic back to the United States and return in time. had switched ships at layup and that an insurance scam was going on. Crewman refused to sail on Titanic He later served as Oxford Professor of Poetry (199499), and lectures given during his tenure in that post were collected as The Strength of Poetry (2001). Now, director James Cameron is hoping . However his comments that the Excerpt from the documentary "Titanic Breaking New Ground" when director James Cameron explores B-52 during his 1995 dive. - Able Bodied Seaman Edward John Buley also reported a couple of tons of block ice (British Inquiry (Day 16). By that time Olympic was at Belfast and underwent a major refit which also included new davits and new lifeboats which were larger than the previous lifeboats.". For many years afterward its port and starboard White Star insignia were used as prizes by a local Sea Scout group. Difference in tonnage 7. Olympic officers on the bridge It is quite possible that those who "remember" Ballard giving a presentation in which he said he saw evidence it was the Olypmic are actually just remembering the documentary entitled "Titanic - The Shocking Truth" which contained fake imagery falsely purported to be evidence of a switch filmed by Ballard. Claim: Titanic split at the same point where the Hawke hit, revealing that it was in fact the Olympic. 1 were never lit at all. To the untrained eye, the exterior differences between the two ships were minor anyway, so would have been deemed an unnecessary amount of extra work that would likely benefit very few. Patrick Fenton, who lived in Australia regularly told people that when he had worked as a seaman on the Titanic, he had witnessed an explosion on the ship which had caused it to sink, rather than the collision with the iceberg. "Wind", the opening poem in James Fenton's Yellow Tulips: Poems 1968-2011, was written over 30 years ago, but could be about any natural disaster or environmental crisis, and most of today's wars . Lack of testimony. However, there are several large issues with this theory. from the wreck was actually the crows nest (or lookout) bell, and he states: on (Click image to see the full, enlarged photograph). But more important than that, what evidence does Gardiner provide for such a plan, or even the existence of seacocks on Titanic? Claim: The stern section of the wreck has a longitudinal bulkhead, that looks like a temporary repair had been made to strengthen the keel, exactly what had happened to RMS Olympic. The special effects of the . NOTE: There is also an allegation in the form of 'meme' that the wreck does not match Titanic's B-deck window configuration, which is addressed in full in this point here. Fenton, F. -Saloon steward Ferrary, Auto -Trimmer Ferris, W. -Leading fireman . Claim: The Olympic was recorded as having a tonnage of around 45,000, while the Titanic weighed in [sic] at about 46,000. Olympic's name is on the wreck Dr. Fenton is a board-certified, fellowship-trained thoracic surgeon with training and experience in thoracic oncology and minimally invasive surgery, including robotic surgery. 16. Was this to hide 12 months worth of scratches and marks on the linoleum's surface? The ships that were launched were not launched in a finished state. Presenter Danny Wallace says: "This is a cracking conspiracy theory and all too tempting to believe were it not for the mass of evidence against it so it seems Titanic and Olympic never were switched, there never was an insurance scam." Fentons poems ranged from narrative to nonsense. Titanic being towed out to her sea trials. 5. (Click image to enlarge). It is true that Titanic's sea trials were half that of Olympic's. The branches creak and the shadows leap. When questioned about the 'switch' theory at the Belfast Titanic museum Q&A in 2014, the man who discovered the wreck of the Titanic, Dr Robert Ballard, answers: "I think it is the Titanic at the bottom of the ocean.". When they were not working, they were in the pub, drinking and talking. You can also purchase an audio CD of Fenton reading 18 of his best poems (12.99) 4. The swap was purely to keep the company in business. Order. Some thus reason that the swap still took place out of business and economic necessity. Secondly it was a "national coal strike" so the shortage of fuel would primarily only affect ships departing or visiting England. Claim: More than fifty first class passengers cancelled at the last minute, many of them friends and business associates of JP Morgan, and Morgan himself (who had money tied up in the White Star Line) also cancelled claiming that he was ill. Morgan was found two days later by a reporter in good health at a French resort with his mistress. There is nothing here on which to base a 'switch' theory. Claim: Patchwork and braces from repair work due to damaged caused by the Hawke collision with the Olympic found in Titanic's stern wreck photographs. Hence it is Olympic, not Titanic. Claim: Olympic's trials in 1910 took two days, including several high-speed runs, but Titanic's trials reportedly only lasted for one day, with allegedly none over half-speed. Californian was carrying woolly jumpers and blankets To presume that Ismay or Morgan had created an intentional design fault is simply absurd for one simple reason: the bulkhead design is the same for both the Olympic and Titanic, so in other words was designed and constructed years in advance of 3. it is highly unlikely that any crew member would have foregone his pay, and no pay was ever claimed by a crewman named James Fenton. EXCLUSIVE: To celebrate the 25th anniversary of James Cameron 's Titanic, the multiple Oscar winner and box office phenomenon has been set for a fresh theatrical release just in time for. Ismay went on public record at the April 1912 United States Senate Hearings and also it was reported in the official public findings that the value of Titanic was "$7.5million" a figure independently verified by the New York Times and The Spectator ("$8 million") while insured at only "$5 million" (as reported at the Senate Inquiry, The New York Times and Lloyds itself). She had a total capacity of 47 passengers and 55 crew members. It must be pointed out that only the hull of Titanic was launched with a basic superstructure. The Blue Vein River is broad and deep. They were only just entering the icefield. - Leading Fireman Charles Hendrickson (British Inquiry, Day 5). Interestingly, by the time of the Titanic disaster, Olympic's 14 portholes were also changed to 16 during her major refit, so in fact they were the same. Compare it with the damage photograph below. Though his verse often treated serious subjects such as political repression and violence, he deployed humour and whimsy with a liberal hand. The ship had never been at the shadows of the butt lap is still discernable." 2. 3 additional double-ended boilers were lit up about 8 a.m. (although they take 12 hours before they are put online) and he was sure that the ships five auxiliary 15 $18.4 17.55 Silver Cricket Fob Recess Antiques 85.00 $104.27 99.42 Silver & M,O,P Fruit Knife.Sheff.1910 By J.Fenton. of the surviving crew. Titanic was not open for the press and public inspection They were mostly Belfast men - i.e. Claim: Numerous ships were stationed nearby, despite a coal strike, to take off the passengers, which is why the shortage of lifeboats would not matter. 11. Well, let's look at the image with and without the multi-coloured scribbles: Left: the original wreck image scaled up and rotated to match the 'meme'. recovered from the wreck but, although in excellent condition, there was no The claim that Olympic was fitted with Titanics propeller has been made as a defense for the fact that the propeller on the wreck has Titanic's number on it: 401 Or is the answer because there is nothing there anyway? Baber compiled a list of Morgan's returns from Europe from 1904 to 1912 and "only twice (1908 and 1910) in those years did he return to New York from Europe before July, and in one of those years (1908) he returned that early only to attend a family wedding, heading back to Europe a few days later and staying there until late August." We need to know which accounts precisely are being referred to here. So does the post-disaster image of Olympic show the "doubler" overlapping or not? Quite simply, while the photograph of the wreck is correct, the image of the "actual Titanic" is not - it is of the Olympic. He wrote most of them when. 32. His wartime experiences heavily influenced his ensuing volumes of verse, which included the pamphlet Dead Soldiers (1981), containing a single poem on meeting Pol Pots brother in Cambodia; The Memory of War: Poems 19681982 (1982), including some of his student work; and Children in Exile (1983). 3. It came from a mold and so there should be no surprise they are exactly the same, that is what you expect from faux marble. So if indeed it was part of some pre-arranged 'rescue' it completely failed in its purpose. Some also claim that the reason some crew did not sign up was specifically because 'the only thing that could not be made to look new were the ship's boilers, having already been used for 12 months on Olympic before the switch' and noticing this on the Belfast to Southampton crossing they decided to 'get off' at Southampton. 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